Welcome to the Ancestral Mind Podcast! Today joining us is Kate Ouellette-Cretsinger, a nutrition coach and host of the K8 4 Wellness Podcast. She's here to share the story of her success in biking while eating a meat-only diet, her experience with nutrition and how it's impacted her life and the lives of her clients, and much more. With every guest that comes on, we find it amazing time after time how each individual success story always seems to stem from correct, healthy eating, and Kate's story is one of them. Tune in now to find out more!
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KateOuellette-Cretsinger: I don't know about you, but alot of my clients tell me I need carbs. I need carbs. I need carbs. It's notthat they need it. It's they want [00:01:00] it. And they're addicted to it.
Colin Stuckert: Hey, welcome to the show.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Hi, Colin. Thank you forhaving me very thankful to be here. I'm a nutrition coach. I love helpingpeople with that. I call myself a nutrition coach, cause I believe nutrition isour biggest tool and I believe that this is the thing that we really havecontrol over the boats. I'm a big believer in movement as well, which is goodfor our heart health, but it's nutrition that covers a lot more than that.
So I like to call myself a nutrition coach.
Colin Stuckert: How'd you get into all this? Was it a typical. Like standardAmerican diet got health issues. Then I went to the complete, other extreme andbecame a coach because that's where you're all the time. So if that's not yourstory, that's fine. What,
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: that's definitely my story.
I've at shell. Um, but I've always beeninto health and nutrition and [00:02:00] all of that. Then just school forexercise science, loved it. My ex husband was a professional boxer, you know,so I've always been into the nutrition. Um, but when my health really, youknow, when I really started opening my eyes, that my health wasn't thegreatest.
And when I started really digging intothat, that's when I realized, okay, I don't eat like most. You know, like Ishould, and it was the standard American diet, but it was a little healthier thanthat. So when I started really diving into it, I was like, wow, we don't know alot of stuff. And I started using myself as the Guinea pig,
Colin Stuckert: the big aha moments, early ones, you know, like, was there aspecific food you got rid of that you felt better?
And you're like, well, wait a second.Experts told me to eat this. And then I took it out. Maybe the experts aren'tright. Like what. Cause I had my aha moment. It seems like everybody has it.What, what was that specific one
Kate Ouellette-Cretsinger:for you specific one with definitely meat. I didn'teat meat. I was more of a carrion.
And then I went keto, vegetarian Quito, andthen I went all carnivore. I realized, you know, that, that was the biggest forme. It was because of beach and coach. I [00:03:00] noticed some of my clients.That we're adhering. As we know as coaches, we don't always have that. Um, yourpercent people jumping in doing what we want and being consistent.
And there were just a handful of peoplethat I knew were being consistent and they were not getting a hundred percentbetter. And so that actually made me look within myself as well. And then Irealized, okay, a lot of these guys are not eating enough protein. Even thoughI did vegetarian keto properly and made sure I got enough protein for what Idid.
Cause I was always been an athlete. Irealized, well, maybe they're not getting enough. So I ended up putting them oncarnivore and they healed a hundred percent and I was like, okay, well there'ssomething here that I need to be doing. And then when I did that, that was abig aha for me. I said, okay, well I definitely wasn't healed a hundredpercent.
There was still some things that werelingering that I. I considered normal. And I think we all do that. We think, Oh,that headaches, normal, that gas and bloating is normal that, you know,whatever the issue is at normal and it's not, we're not supposed to feelanything. Yeah. That's
Colin Stuckert: very true. So you actually put [00:04:00] clients on before you wereeven doing it yourself.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Yeah. Which is very unusualfor me.
Colin Stuckert: It's unusual for any human to,
Colin Stuckert: Coaches are like, this is what I do. You should do this. And sothat, that's a very telling. That you cared for your clients enough to do that?I mean, that's, that's pretty impressive.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: And a lot of people,especially my daughter, cause I put her on it.
She's 30 years old. She had diverticulitisand I told her to do it. Um, and that's very telling for her too, cause shesaid, well, you don't eat meat. So. It must be. And I was doing like eight, itwas a eight months of research before I even put my clients on it before I evencommitted to doing it. So, you know, even though I ate vegetarian, noteverybody that I worked with ate vegetarian.
I taught them how to eat whatever lifestylethey wanted to.
Colin Stuckert: Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. You mentioned, it began to show thatyou did some crazy bike ride. And so now you're, you're out there trying topromote more of a ancestral meat-based. I mean, I'm hesitant to call carnivalnowadays because there's a little bit negative.
Branding [00:05:00] comes with that. And Idon't know if that if carnivores going to become the next Quito or if it'sgoing to be like a, I'm calling it like a incestual ancestrally appropriate.Animal-based way of eating. I got to figure out how to make an acronym out ofthat or something, but that's me, that's basically what, what it is.
And it really is, even if it's 80%carnivore, a lot of people like, Oh, last on carnivores. So you have that diet,dogma, that those bad ideas. Right. But to me, it's pretty much the same thing.If I'm eating mostly animal products, it's cardboard to me. And if I have alittle bit of fruit here and there, or a little bit of veg here and there,whatever that doesn't affect me, It's the same thing.
Right? So tell me, tell me about what yourtrying to promote now that you're so gung ho about,
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: well, as I said before, I'man athlete. I love that. And I'm a big believer and I am one of those people, Iguess they call me the food Nazi for a reason. I'm a big believer in, we don'tneed carbs whatsoever, no carbs, or can function off that properly.
And I think Ben, dr. Ben Beckman said itthe best way. He said. That is one of the macro nutrients. They does not needto ingest it can do it on its own meaning carbohydrates. And I'm a [00:06:00]big believer in that too, but it's, I don't know about you, but a lot of myclients tell me I need carbs. I need carbs. I need carbs.
It's not that they need it. It's they wantit and they're addicted to it. And so for me, it was to prove, cause I workedwith a lot of athletes and it was not so much improved, but I wanted to havethe journey and the end, the knowledge and. The experience to share with themsaying, listen, you don't need it because I just did a 225 mile bike ride withover 14,000 feet in elevation on nothing but meat for over a year.
So you can't tell me that your bodyabsolutely needs it. And so, you know, this was a great way to prove thatwrong. I know there's studies out there, you know, studies. Yeah. You know,there's good ones. There's bad ones, whatever. But for me, it's what is itapplicable and what I've seen and what I've done and what I see in my practice.
And thought, or me, this was, was huge. Andwhat was even bigger was that I didn't, I did it on not eating at all duringthe ride. Cause a lot of the athletes think when you do this, I asked you that.
Colin Stuckert: So you fasted. [00:07:00] So how long was that? That how long of aperiod of time was that?
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: So I, I, the first day Ibroke it up into two days, so it was supposed to do a hundred, one day.
It ended up being a little more than ahundred on the first day. And I forced myself to eat that morning because Iknew that when I work out, I can't eat. I just don't feel well when I do it. SoI know I have to do it fast. And so I had been experimenting before this ride,where I live in New Hampshire and we have a lot of Hills I've always did itfascinating.
And I was always out there for five or sixhours. Didn't eat at all before I went, I'd come home. In three or four hourslater is when I would eat. I wasn't even hungry when I came home. So I decided,well, this I'm going to be on the road for probably 13 hours close to 13 hours.I should probably eat. And so the first morning I forced myself to eat and itwas not even four ounces of state.
I couldn't even eat all what I had. Madehush, just like, I can't do this. I'm not even hungry. I'm all about eatingintuitively. And when your belly grumbles, that's when you should eat. So Iforced my, I try to force myself so I didn't eat much. Um, and that was[00:08:00] at five 30 in the morning and I didn't eat again until eight 30 atnight.
So I was out there and actually ended uponly being 11 hours is what I was out there for. And it was a hot humid day. Itwas, you know, almost 90 and it was 80% humidity. It was really hot. So. Isurvived often electrolytes that's all I had was water and electrolytes. And itwasn't the electrolytes with like Stevia or monk fruit or anything like that.
It was just plain old sodium potassium andmagnesium. That was it. Nothing else.
Colin Stuckert: Yeah. That's incredible. So we'll use zero carbon that like leadingup to it too.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Yeah. So at that day I wasactually just under a full year of having just meat, nothing but me. I didn't,I don't do sweeteners. I don't do so.
Basically the steak and eggs is what I, Iate. I don't even do dairy. So it was none of that. So yeah, it was justdifferent cuts of meat, different from different animals. I don't eat chicken,I don't eat pork. So it's, you know, like. Anything from Liam bison, [00:09:00]beef, that kind of stuff I will eat. It has to be for me, has to be farm raisedand breastfed.
Right. So I'm a big believer in it beingclean.
Colin Stuckert: So a couple of things here, so you're, you're promoting, I guess theidea that you don't need carbs. Right? Which a lot of people will mistake forthis idea that you're saying don't eat carbs or carbs are bad, but I think weshould clarify that for people because.
You know, humans love that black and white,they want it's either in a box or it's not right. Well, what you're doing byshowing that you can do that. And we haven't, we've had a lot of guests, soMcKayla Peterson, and she eats the line diets, basically beef and salt. We'vehad Sina that wrote a book with Joel Saltz and she had to cut out a lot ofthings cause she had autoimmune issues.
Right. We've had, we have a lot of thesepeople that have a similar story as yours. Some people like Kevin stock, forexample, he does just meat. They basically beat nothing else. Almost maybe someeggs or row me. I enjoy food. I've been a foodie my whole life. So I'll havethe dairy I'll have maybe even some gluten free things here and there I'm kindof experimenting.
Cause I was full blown carnivore, you know,basically the beginning of the year. And then I've kind of like [00:10:00]moved to a flexible and sexually based way of eating as I'm calling it. Right.And so I want people to understand that when you say, when you're showing thatyou don't need carbs, we're not saying you shouldn't eat carbs, right.
Everybody's different. Your genetics, yourancestors, what they did. In fact, there's a lot of studies that like dr. Tedname, and he was on our podcast talking about, he was talking about that. Thecloser you get to the Ecuador where ancestors live, usually those people atemore carbohydrates, right? The further away from the equator, the moreNorthern, I mean, we're talking like almost no carbohydrates, right?
And so a lot of us whiter skinned individualsare probably going to do better with more of a, of a meat based diet. There'sso much variation here. We can't make blanket statements, but there is onething for sure. When you tell yourself, Oh, I need carbs. Well, you're right.For as long as you tell yourself, you need carbs.
Of course you need carbs. You Lily toldyourself you need carbs. Right? So I think, I think it's a mindset shift thatpeople need. And also in the athletic community, everybody thinks the carbs areessential and this and that. And there's a lot of really bad ideas aroundcalories in calories out, carbohydrates, whatever.
So [00:11:00] I get what you're doing.You're almost like, like protesting sauce, experimenting and showing people,you know, at the same time. Cause so what would you say to that to maybe as anaddendum, to what I just said.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: I totally agree with you.Like, I believe that individuals, like you said, and I'm a big believer inhelping people where they're at.
Maybe it's just, like you said it, maybeit's just a mindset thing and that's something that you need to work on. So Ido have to say it only, it took me over at night to become. Grain free sugarfree because I had health issues, my family on the yeah, their hand, it took thema year, maybe two to get to them the point where they are grain-free, but theystill have carbs, not just, not grains.
So there's different levels of carbs too.And I'm all about Trent density. So if you are going to eat carbs, let's eatthe nutrient dense ones, not the empty ones. Like. The grains. So if you're, ifyou're going to do that Dick with, you know, like the sweet potatoes and the,you know, the tubers, that kind of stuff, instead of, you know, eating the riceand the pasta,
[00:12:00] ColinStuckert: cassava chips, almond flour tortillas, all those thingsthat, you know, the paleo is like, Kind of, we think they're kind of realfoods, but really they're actually just processed foods.
And so we, you know, we have those in the householdsometimes and you know, it's very hard to resist. I think the point here withcarbs is that we live in a Carbridge environment because most processed foodcarbs and obviously Cedar falls, that's maybe another topic, but this processis everywhere. It's in restaurant food.
It's in packaged food. It's what lines?Most of the grocery store shelves. So by saying, okay, we don't need carbs one.So let's use that as an anchor. To like get us as far away from the carspectrum as possible. Right. I feel like that's where this kind of advice isreally useful because no matter what we have, I have to always watch the amountof carbohydrates we're taking, especially sugar.
And then you get into something more likehow much energy you're taking in which. Dr. Ted NAMI talks about a lot. Hecalls it the protein yeah. Energy balance, how much protein you're eating andthen how much carbs and fat, which is energy. Are you eating and throttlingthose two, usually for everyone that need more protein and then you lostenergy, [00:13:00] right?
And then within the energy spectrum, mostpeople need way less carbs and more fat. So you have these, these leavers andwe understand them. You can kind of throttle them back and forth. So what doesit look like for you when you're working with clients? Take me through somebodywho's like, okay. I mean, are, are, is it mostly athletes or do you have someoverweight clients or is it is just a mix.
So what if somebody is total newbiestandard American diet, like what do you do? Like run me through that process.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Yeah. So we start off with,um, education. Obviously you gotta, they have to understand it before they canactually do it. So yeah, we do one meal at a time, one item at a time. So Ialways find that it's harder for people to get rid of carbohydrates instead ofsugar.
So we usually start with sugar and I alwaysstart with their first meal of the day, because that is what we start our dayoff, whatever I want it to be on the right foot. And so whatever that. Firstmeal of the day is for them. Some of them want to eat right. When they wake up,some of them don't even want to eat breakfast and they get shocked when I tellthem, have to they're like, what do you mean?
I don't have to. I was told it was the mostimportant meal to today and I said it is, but it's [00:14:00] yeah, exactly. Sowe go through that kind of process and getting them to understand that theydon't have to eat. And that's the biggest one to eat when you're hungry andwhen intuitively eating. So a lot of the times when you eat carbs and you eatsugar, you don't have that ability to make ghrelin, which makes your bellygrumble.
So it's getting the body doing that again.A lot of the times your body doesn't produce leptin, which is the satietyhormone. And that's. Due to carbohydrates and as well as sugar. So it's justlearning and teaching the body how to do that again. And so we do that one mealat a time, one item at a time. So
Colin Stuckert: one meal you say, okay, here's your DeMille.
You would have eaten. This is what youshould eat. Or you're just like a scrap bat, unless here's a list of foods. Howdo you help them like audit or rebuild that first meal?
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: So, what I do is I do, and Idon't. So first off I ask them, what does a typical meal look like for you,your first meal? And then I say, okay, how about we substitute this for this?
Give them healthier [00:15:00] options.Cause usually when you tell them not to eat something, they end up not eatinganything at all. And then they just go into this caloric deficit and they don'thave the energy to do anything either they go. Major girls, all of that stuff.So I, in the midst of all this, I get them to amp up their fat and their waterfirst because sometimes even though I tell them, let's replace this with this,they still don't.
They just take out that item and they don'treplace it with something. That'll give them energy and make them feel
Colin Stuckert: strictly mindset. Because if they say I'm going to, I'm going tocoach, I gotta be prepared to basically just not eat food. But the reality is alot of people might even be under eating their bodies.
This kind of, maybe even a cork state orhyper where they're not their body, isn't responding correctly. You can getinto fat loss mode. Insulin's high, like all these different things. So likeI've seen a lot of people where they actually eat more food, more volume,right. And of course, more nutrients food, and then they lose weight and I'mlike, wait, wait, what's going on.
And of course I was talking about peoplethrowing intermit fasting, which just like takes it to another level. But it issurprising that. It's so [00:16:00] counterintuitive to what people think, Oh,calories in calories out,
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: right? Yeah. And I still runinto that fat thing too. Like it's still up here in the Northeast cause I'm init, you know, and it's funny, I had this one, this one woman sticks out themost because she, I love sharing her story and I kept telling it, she hurt, shewasn't losing weight.
She wasn't gaining weight. She was at thisplateau and I kept telling her, add an avocado to every meal Avanav and shejust wouldn't do it. And because of the fear. And so I said to her, so listen,You're not gaining, you're not losing do me a favor just every day, this week,just add an avocado to every meal she did.
And she called me like three days later, Ilost five pounds. And I was like, of course he did, because you were starvingyour body of the nutrients that it needed. And so they just don't a lot. Theydon't understand that it's counterintuitive, like you said. So it's justgetting people, giving them that knowledge because there's just.
So much different information out therethat people don't know what to believe anymore. And a lot of it stems from thatfood pyramid, you know? And that's why, if you remember, [00:17:00] I mean,you're, you look kinda young, so maybe you're not as old as I am, but at thebottom of the food pyramid was where all the carbs were and we built our foodand our meals around carbs.
And that's why I feel it's the hardest forthem to get rid of is the carbs.
Colin Stuckert: Yeah, I, well, I grew up in the eighties. I mean, I was born in theeighties, so I'm older than I might look, but that's of course, because I eatin the sexually appropriate animal based way of eating and that's why I canlook young and I will stay looking young.
Yeah. So, yeah, I'm always curious when Italk to coaches like. It's really, really hard to get people to lose weight.It's really, really hard to get people to exercise. We get any human to dosomething that's not built into their routine already. And the older somebodyis the harder it is. Right. Cause they're more, they're more ingrained withthose habits over just years of conditioning.
So what are some of those, maybe they'rejust. Anecdotes that you can come up with. Like, I'm always just trying to get,like, what are some crazy aha moments or, or like revelations that you didn'teven expect that you learned through teaching a client or, or like anythingthat comes to mind to help answer that?
Cause I [00:18:00] just felt like thosethat's where a lot of the help that people that might listen to a conversationand they get what we're saying, but translating everyday life and adjustinghabits. That's not an easy
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: proposition. It isn't. And sowhat I always come back to is the why, why are they doing it?
What is their underlying reason? Cause weforget that why a lot. And I noticed when I tap into that, why that's one ofthe first questions I asked them, why do you want to work with me? What do youwant it to look like? You know? And that's why I consider myself a coach aswell. Why are they working with me and what do they want it to look like at theend?
To me, that was the aha moment. If we don'tfocus on that, you lose sight of that because it is, it's a grind for a lot ofpeople, and it's a lot of work to create new habits. And, you know, becausewe're just so stuck in our old ways that it takes time. It took us a long timeto get to those bad habits.
It's gonna take us a long time to get tothe good habits too. So that's why I always believe in the small steps. Firstas well, instead of just giving people lists of things that they need to do.And if lists of things that they need to eat and [00:19:00] things to avoidthings to not do, it doesn't work that way.
You only have so much willpower, but alsofood is addicting and especially carbs and sugar. And it, and there's a lot of,I don't know if you're familiar with doctor John Flynn's work, I'm working alot with her stuff and it's. All about food and what it does to our brain andhow neuro marketing with all of the advertisings and all of that, you know, thesocial media stuff that keeps popping up that is all about herd mentality.
And we want to have what our tribe ishaving and they're happy. And so all that neuro marketing plays a big part inour brain too. So when I work with people, I kind of encourage them not to beon social media, not to watch the TV. The same for that radio, the normalradio. So it's, it's all of that encompassed with the nutrition.
It's not just nutrition. So that's also abig aha for me was a lot of our environment outside stuff too. Not just thestuff that we put into our body or on our body. It's the stuff that's, youknow, we're hearing and seeing [00:20:00] that's huge
Colin Stuckert: too. So what were, what are some of those whys? So like what aresome examples and do you remind them, is there like strategies, is there like ajournaling practice?
You know, like what's something tactile.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Yeah. So a lot of the timestoo is me putting it on them. So one of the things that I love asking is howmany percentage wise are you doing? What we're talking about? Cause a lot ofthe times it, you know, they like to project says, coaches, what you're doingfor me is not working.
What you. But it's really upon them. Causethey're, we can't want it more than them and we can't do they're pushups forthem. Right. So I always ask them, so how much are you putting into action ofall this stuff that we're talking? I said, put it in percentage wise, you know,and then that gets them thinking, Oh boy.
And maybe it's not her it's me. And then Isaid, okay. So when we talked in the beginning, you said you wanted to do thisfor this reason. And the most of it is they, you know, their parents, they sawwhat their parents went through, whether it was a heart attack or some kind of,um, Parkinson's or something that, that really has a huge impact on family.
So [00:21:00] some kind of an illness ordisease claim is hereditary. Yeah. So that's a big one. Weight loss isdefinitely one. I think, as coaches, we always see that stuff. And then, um,you know, they just all are tired of feeling like crap or they don't want totake medications every day. You know, those are the ones that I see a lot ofthat are not athletes.
Those are the ones that, and then obviouslythe athletes are, I wanna, I want to perform that. I want to be at the top. Iwant to be, you know, that's. Yeah, exactly. So those are the big ones. So, youknow, and reminding them of that, you know, one of the ones that I recently hadwas a gentleman, his testosterone levels were low.
He was very young and, you know, and he'slike, you know, you can't perform well on the gym. I can't perform at home andall this stuff. And I was just like, that's hard for a young male. It's hardfor a male period, but a young one. And he just kind of lost interest. And thenI had to just remind him of it again.
And he's like, Oh right. You know, so Ithink life. Is pretty, you know, the grind of [00:22:00] life kind of takesover sometimes. And you forget that. Why? So it's nice to be reminded of thatin a nice way. Um, some people I've worked with for a while. I don't have to beso gentle and nudging that way I can just say, Hey, listen, you know, it's timeto get back on track here.
Colin Stuckert: When somebody says weight loss, do you ask them why again, becausethat's not really weight loss itself is not really a goal. It should be aconnected to a goal. It's a path towards something else.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: And that's where I dig alittle more. Cause I tell them, I said, you know, gang is inflammation, sothere's something deeper.
And that's when we go through their bloodwork, can we, I have them do it, go through a huge series of everything thatthey need to get done, not just your normal CBC. I had them do a lot of stuffso we can review all of that because I'm not a doctor. I can't diagnose them,but they are insulin resistant.
And I can't say that to them because I'mnot a doctor, but I know exactly what we need to do. And that is. Low carshare, you know, kind of the same things I would do anyway, but it's nice tohave the blood work to show them and say, [00:23:00] look, this is the problem,and this is what we need to fix. And then when we fix all of this terminally,then the outside will follow.
So we got to heal the inside first.
Colin Stuckert: Yeah. And I pulled up a Nietzsche quote. That is one of myfavorites. He who has a why to live, can bear almost any how. And then there'sanother book that I recommend everyone read, start with why it's a little bitabout business Simon Sineck, but it's, it's about the best companies have astrong why, whether it's Apple, whether it's Amazon, whatever.
And so it's so very true for everything.Like if you're going to do anything and you're going to have to commit to itfor the long haul, you better have a why. Otherwise you're not going to be ableto stick with it. And most of the time, it's not that we don't have a why. Isthat we're disconnected from the Y or we haven't really gone deep enough todiscover it.
So I think that's, it's hugely important.Um, I'm curious though, have you had clients that have quit or failed and whatdid that look like? Yeah,
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: they have, because they'rejust tired of doing the work and they're not ready. And I tell them that fromthe get go, like, I almost discouraged everyone to work with me.
Believe it or not. When I'm stressed.[00:24:00] Yeah. It's like, it's a huge commitment. It's a lot of change. Youhave to be on board. You have to have support at home. If you don't have. Athome, I have group sessions that you can do because it's important to have thatsupport outside of just me and you have to be around it all the time.
And so that's why I offer group orindividual. Um, and I find a lot of times the spouses are not on board and that'skind of sad, you know, cause you really want your spouse to thrive and see thatthrive and achieve their goals. But for some reason we don't see a lot of that.So yeah, I explained that.
Helping people. I ask them, I don't forcethem because I, like I said earlier, I can't want it more than them. So I said,okay. So where do you want to go from here? I'm giving you all the things thatyou want to do. How much are you putting into action? And if they are not, Isaid, so why, what is that limiting belief what's holding you from gettingthere.
And so we did. It a lot on the self, theself limiting lease we all have. I don't know if you've ever read the book, thebig leap [00:25:00] by gay Hendricks, but he talks a lot about that stuff. Evenpeople at Apple have those limiting beliefs, even though they're successful.And we all have that self doubt, self bad talk, things that keep us fromsucceeding.
So we dig into that a little bit. If theydon't want to dig and they don't want to know the answer, then I just tell themI can't help them. And that it's their choice. We can continue doing theeducation for our portion of it. And then when they're red having education orthey can, they can come back when they're ready and I'll always be here.
So a lot of the times they're just notready to do that. Digging. It's scary to know what that is. And sometimes, youknow, people just aren't ready to hear that or want to know that just yet. So Ido have people that do quit for that reason.
Colin Stuckert: Are there some common complaints or. Hang ups that you run into,like, what are some of the blocks?
I mean, obviously the mental blocks arejust unlimited. There's so many of them, we can't really even go into that.Right. But a lot of people feel they don't deserve a body or this or that, orthey were abused as a [00:26:00] child native or impacted. Like, there's somany things that people themselves sabotage themselves.
And it's not about a lack of information.It's not about a lack of skill or knowledge or anything. It's quite literallyjust their inner world. They haven't unpacked. But what are some of like thereally big hurdles, maybe they're the things that. You're you're able to getclients over and some just aren't ready to go over them or, you know, is it afood thing?
Is it like an exercise thing? Is it acooking at home? What do you find now? These, for people that really hit up tothat wall or that plateau.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Yeah. What I see the most isI am not enough. That's the biggest thing. And so that I am not enough willtranslate into not prepping on working out in the morning, not doing that.
So it all comes down to, I'm not enough theworthiness. So a lot of the times I sneak it in for them, for exercises to dolike, okay, I want you to do some grateful, some gratitude writing aboutyourself, not about other people, like give me three things every morning thatyou're grateful for, for yourself and doing kind of, that kind of stuff doesopen them up, but it.
Big hurdle is I'm not enough in theworthiness. [00:27:00] So what I help them do is there's a lot of exercisesthat we do for the gratitude writing, or even just being out in nature, gettingthem to reground that kind of stuff. Instead of. Facing the childhood memory,you know, I don't think that's important just knowing that, you know, that it'snot, that you're not enough just knowing that yeah.
Is, is enough. And that helps us moveforward and get over the hurdle. Um, but sometimes people don't want to. Getover that hurdle because they are more comfortable in that part of the victim.Like, what am I, if I am no longer, if I know that I'm worthy, what kind ofperson who am I going to be? I lose that identity of enough and I'm not worthy.
So a lot of people aren't ready to get ridof that. Cause they liked that in their life.
Colin Stuckert: Yeah. There's the victim mentality, which is an addiction. There'salso just the fact that. I try to tell people this all the time, they asked melike, okay, how do I be successful or self help or personal development,basically, everything in any of our lives.
Like the [00:28:00] point we're at now isbecause of our ability to get, be at this point now. Right? So like for you togo beyond the point that you've been at for a while, and of course, some of usare on a path and we're growing or whatever, but for the most part, we're allgoing to butt up to like our maximum potential.
And it's always, always, always. Comes downto your brain and how you think and your mindset, like literally there'snothing else. There's not a lack of opportunity. It's not a lack ofintelligence, not like a skill. It's not a lack of where you're at. Where areyou living? How much money you have or don't have.
It's quite literally only how you think werise to the, basically the lowest level of our awareness and consciousness. Andso that's why it's like, that's the hard part though, because everyone wants tojust like buy a plan or hire coach or like study, you know, whatever, and thenjust get the results. And it's like a lot of times though, for most people, especiallyif they struggle with things their whole life.
None of that matters. Like if they just gotthrough some of the living beliefs, they would get results. They couldn't evenfathom in ways they couldn't even imagine. And so the mindset part is just sobig and, but it's also so frustrating because humans are such psychologicalcreatures, you know, so murky.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: And that's [00:29:00] part ofwhat my problem was with my health was my own view on myself. That's why I waseight. I'm able to help my clients the way that I am because of what I had togo through and the mental healing that I had to do. And so that was why I didthis big bribe to was. Because of all the self limiting beliefs that I've hadin the past.
And for me, this was like, I know I can dothis. I know my body can handle this, the mental challenge that I was reallylooking for. And it was an amazing challenge too, in that aspect. So I knowfrom personal experience that that's what it is and that's fine. I'm able to helpmy clients get through that stuff too.
The ones that are willing to do the work, Ican't want it more than them and I can't do it for them. So yeah. So that's
Colin Stuckert: great. I got a couple of rapid fire questions here that we're goingto go through and then we'll wrap up and I'll, we'll do the links andeverything of where people can find you. Okay.
So the first thing we do is what is it?Life-changing purchase under a hundred dollars. Anything that's been recent orjust like anything that comes to mind, something that's really [00:30:00]impactful. It could be for health, or it could be just for anything really.It's gotta be
Colin Stuckert: a hundred or less. It can be a little bit more than a hundred, but thatrange.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: I would have to say, um, thebook I am enough by Marissa pier. That was very impactful. Absolutely.
Colin Stuckert: All right. I'm going to write that down. I have enough books arealways good. I'm glad when people say that, what is your favorite Instagramaccount? Under 25,000 followers.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: So that would be the primalblueprint.
I think they're on good. 25,000.
Colin Stuckert: I met Mark Sisson at paleo effects. First year we were in business.That was like,
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: awesome. That was
Colin Stuckert: dream. That's awesome. Yeah. Okay. If you could have a billboardwith anything on it, what would it be? What would you put on that? Billboard?
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Less is more,
Colin Stuckert: less is more. I like that.
Can you explain that then? Like what do
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: you mean by that? So I find,um, I do a lot of the, the Maffetone training. So I do a lot of maximizeaerobic function work. And that has always gotten me to get faster. I've beendoing that for the past three years. [00:31:00] So what it does is it just decreasesthe inflammatory response that you get from extreme working out, and it alsomaximizes your fat burning abilities.
So it helps when you are doing these longendurance races to burn fat instead of sugar. And
Colin Stuckert: so when you say less is more though, how does that apply to that?
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Yeah, so you work out less,so a lot of the athletes, thank you. Got to work out hard. You got to work outevery day. Yes. Yeah. Yep. So it's less is more
Colin Stuckert: so a favorite cut of meat.
And how do you prepare it?
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Oh, that would it be myribeye and I love it cooking it Intello with a lot of salt on it. And then Ijust kind of sear it in a cast iron pan.
Colin Stuckert: That's how I break my fast every day. It's usually rebars.
Colin Stuckert: Yep. What is something that I didn't ask that I should have.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: I think for me, the questionwould have been about like, what am I most passionate about?
And I would have to say inflammation. And alot of people don't realize what that is. It's all about. [00:32:00] Um,anything that you feel from headaches all the way up to any kind of diseasethat's inflammation. And so anything we are labeled as that we're going to haveforever for, or we don't have control of, we actually do through.
Nutrition. And so, you know, I don't treatanybody any different that has a headache versus cancer. We just removed theinflammatory issues. And when we do that, the body has the amazing ability toheal. So it's all about removing inflammation.
Colin Stuckert: So what are five tips for not non nutrition related tips forreducing inflammation?
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: non, non nutrition so that Iwould definitely, okay. I guess I could say water is nutrition, right? Sodrinking water definitely sleep is another huge one. Making sure you do fullpractice, whatever that is for you. If it's a walking out in nature, go out anddo it. Um, making sure you set time aside for yourself.
Just for you outside of anybody else inquiet. So you can feel your feelings and understand what's going on inside ofyou, [00:33:00] because we have so much going on outside of us. And then theother things take time with what makes you happy? Is that your family? Is thata special friend, but always making time each week to do that too?
Colin Stuckert: Yeah. And I would also say part of that solitude time or that goingout in nature time or whatever is turning your damn devices.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Yes. Thank you.
Colin Stuckert: Get off your phone, like turn your ringer off your notifications.And just a side note. If you're an adult, this is just my blanket advice foreverybody. If you're an adult in 2020, and you still have your phone that pingsyou and brings you in.
Popups show up or whatever. It's destroyingyour brain. You need to turn them all off. Check your phone. When you want acouple of times a day, I keep my phone in airplane mode most of the day. AndI'm just so happy when I, when I take it off. I'm happy when I have nonotifications, I don't want anybody.
Right. That's great.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: I love that
Colin Stuckert: because I changed my number. I haven't given my number out to manypeople, like only close friends and family. So.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: I'm going to take that idea.Thank you. I'm going to change my number two.
Colin Stuckert: It's a pleasure. [00:34:00] And where can people find you?
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: They can find me on allsocial media platforms as well as my websites.
So that is K eight for wellness. It's theletter K the number eight, the number for wellness. And that is LinkedIn andthat is Facebook and it's also Instagram. So that's where they can find me. Andmy website is obviously.com. Okay, great.
Colin Stuckert: Okay. We'll have links, everything in and show notes. It was apleasure having you on.
Keep doing what you're doing. It matters.
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: Awesome. Thank you for havingme. It was a pleasure. Of
Colin Stuckert: course,
Kate Ouellette-Cretsinger:please always remember that the members of theancestral mind podcast
Colin Stuckert: are not
KateOuellette-Cretsinger: in fact medicalprofessionals. They're not doctors, they're not nutritionists. They are simplyproviding this entertainment for you to do your own research and to entertainyourselves. So please consult a physician before changing your diet.
Not everything works for everybody. Andmake sure you always do your own research on everything you hear on this showand outside.
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